Sent to Mr. Breen's WHOIS contact e-mail:
Subject: Question: Can you publish your funding breakdown for FreeRice.com?I'll let you know what he says, if anything.
John:
I thought I could give this request a shot, since my off-the-cuff calculations (http://perigee.livejournal.com/414894.html) are a little disturbing.
I figure you must not be working a standard CPM advertising deal with the advertisers/sponsors of FreeRice, and that your profit margins probably aren't that high, but can you shed light on what is going on in your charity and what your numbers look like from your end?
The problem is that folks are figuring out that 10 grains of rice is very very small and that the potential for ad-driven profit on your vocabulary game is very very high.
I'm not trying to make your life difficult, but it would be wonderful to know what your charity's funds-handling process is like, how much overhead you've got, etc.
Thanks very much in advance,
Malcolm

Comments
I don't know (or have an opinion) either way, I am just spectating and speculating :)
Do you think there are innumerate people playing and playing because they think they're getting substantial amounts of rice sent? This is a real question--I have no idea if many people would get snagged that way.
To my mind, the cheesiest thing about the site is the implication that it will help you improve your vocabulary. I don't think that sort of contextless exposure makes it possible to remember words.
And what are the odds that people are noticing the ads?
I think that if he pockets the substantial amount of money, that's one thing, but I'd rather see someone with differing politics making and taking that money, which is why I talk about his apparent personal political stance as the other portion of the issue I find troubling.
If you look at the conversation I have going on my other post with
But still, advertisers don't pay for nothing. If they found the ad system untenable, they wouldn't pay, so I figure they must be getting something out of it.
There are more than three ads--they repeat, but the ad rotation might be enough to get past the lower payment for repetition issue.
But still, advertisers don't pay for nothing. If they found the ad system untenable, they wouldn't pay, so I figure they must be getting something out of it.
I don't believe people in business are especially efficient. (I'm a libertarian because I believe government is worse than business, not because I believe business is reliably wonderful by any measure.)
Consider clothes for fat women. The large numbers of fat women has been a known and obvious fact for decades--the availability of nice clothing for them has only improved slowly, and still isn't very good.
Contemplate the sub-prime lending mess. A little thought and research would have suggested to banks that they were investing in unsustainable loans.
Thinking is hard work, especially if you don't know you've got something you need to think about. Even if you do want to think, sometimes the information you need is not yet gathered or is impossible to get. What your customers will want six months from now isn't knowable, and it can be hard to figure out what they want to buy now.
How much to spend on what sort of advertising is one of those non-optimizable issues, especially when you're figuring out the multi-year process of building a brand.
I'm not saying advertising is entirely a waste of a company's money, just that any particular piece of advertising involves a lot of guessing. Print advertising for mail order is an exception--it's possible to do controlled experiments there. I expect there is similarly testable web advertising.